The idea that the U.S. was founded on Deism - a belief in a creator who does not intervene in human affairs - is a significant part of the debate regarding American origins. While some argue for a purely Christian founding, many historians note that key founders like Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and John Adams held deistic or non-orthodox beliefs, favoring reason over dogma.
Influence of Deism: Historian Frank Lambert noted that the Enlightenment and Deism significantly influenced the birth of the American republic.
Thomas Paine, whose writing was critical to the revolution, was a known proponent of Deism, arguing against mixing church and state. Other scholars and activists argue the founders were largely influenced by Judeo-Christian values.
A 1797 treaty, signed by John Adams, stated, "the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion". This debate often centers on whether the "Creator" mentioned in the Declaration of Independence refers to the Christian God or a more general Deistic concept.
So all the years of the Mayflower Compact created November 11, 1620, Starting, IN THE NAME OF GOD, AMEN, which was the governing laws and documents is all forgotten? Also forgotten the first school books were the Bible, or how about you could not have a government position unless you belonged to a church and denomination? Me thinks your research is skewed like much of the history as of late. The new government was formed to be more in tune with a multi cultural world but with the underlying values and Christian beliefs that established this country. A tip for research, the states were the power behind the government, not the central government, a structure which they did not believe in.
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The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
If you look at individual state Constitutions you will find much more praise to God. Also it was judge Black that coined "Separation of Church and state", which was never part of any laws.
So the Mayflower Compact the Agreement Between the Settlers at New Plymouth in 1620 as written in the opening phrase, "IN THE NAME OF GOD, AMEN," that was the governance of the colonies for over 150 years until some decided a more secular form of government that could deal with many nations diversity and religions was created and formed. That the USA was almost not formed for the war with the Muscle men/ Muslim men and we had to concede to survive because we could not defeat them. Which is why the statement "we are not a Christian nation" was made to save our country. Also there is no mention of the first books being Bibles in schools, or that all government workers must be associated with a church and religious group. Just to name a few of the inconsistencies of your find. Like the quote taken out of context. Power was never to be vested in a central government, it was with individual states, and it is there you will find many more references to God and formation of states and the country than in the Federal Registry. There was never supposed to be and there really is not a separation of Church and state either. Only the statement by Supreme court justice Hugo Black a KKK member and a Mason that opined in a statement in a case unrelated to the case itself made a statement and set a ridiculous precedent.
ReplyDeleteNot all Christians but 29 of the signers of the Declaration where Christian ministers. A good source of information is https://wallbuilders.com/about-us/
ReplyDeleteThis is a good read but you have to go to almost the end for John Adams quote. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Deism
ReplyDeleteYet, the signatories of our founding documents formed over 250 Christian educational institutions including Harvard.
ReplyDeleteIt is most certainly not a myth, Washington our first president as well as the vast majority of our founders were Christian. Calling out Jefferson (the guy we hired to write our founding document) and a few upstarts does not mitigate the fact that over 95 percent of our founders were Christian and that the other 5 percent not in any way anathema to those viewpoints.
"And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor". "The idea that the U.S. was founded on Deism - a belief in a creator who does not intervene in human affairs - is a significant part of the debate regarding American origins". I don't see how the Founding Fathers would believe that The All Mighty does not touch us daily....
ReplyDeleteOur Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
ReplyDelete-- John Adams (1735-1826)