We have a saying here in Florida that kinda defines the State - 'The farther north you go in Florida, the farther south you get'. If you'spent any time at all here, you know that to be true...
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I think you can make a pretty good argument that the south includes some of the lower part of Missouri. There was a Confederate unit from Missouri at the Battle of Vicksburg.
ReplyDeleteAnd just to complicate things, the Arkansas/Tennessee/Mississippi tr-state area is referred to as The Mid-South.
ReplyDeleteMy Grandmother was born and raised in Southern Missouri and if ANYONE had DARED tell her she wasn't southern she'd've "whupped the tar" out of 'em. This woman was born in the 1880's and never went further than 20 miles from home (until Grandpa died in 1970, then we took her to tour the country on our family vacations in the Fury III). She had 12 children and buried 5 before she died in '85. She made sure that all of her sons knew how to make biscuits and gravy from scratch, "So they'd never starve." She fried chicken, cooked poke and collard greens. She cured her own bacon and sausage and had a huge garden, filled with bens, peas, potatoes and anything else she could can. She knew how to make do with very little. She considered herself very southern and if anyone would have suggested to tell her different she'd've gone after them with a hickory switch. (I know, she made me cut several over the years. To use on ME.) If you read the "Foxfire" books she spoke, and behaved, pretty close to Aunt Arie. She never met a stranger; only a friend she hadn't known long. Anyone who called on her to visit, for whatever reason, left with a big slab of cornbread and some sorghum butter. They don't make people like that anymore. So that map is WRONG!
ReplyDeleteI am originally from CA born in the late 50s, but in 96 my company moved me to NoVA. I could see the south there but also the influx of DC affecting things. In 2005 business moved me to Atlanta and it was more south. My oldest son ended up moving to Charleston, SC living and working there with his family. My youngest son stayed in Atlanta working. Me and my wife retired to Charleston, SC in 21 to be closer to my oldest and his family. MS, AL, SC and GA are all deep south. We have been in FL and it is south in the panhandle but as you go more south toward Miami, Orlando, or Tampa it becomes filled with northern people.
ReplyDeleteVirginia is the South, despite a tendency to feel things other than solidarity toward the Deep South.
ReplyDeleteIt's always fun to inform Maryland college students (who do in college what Virginia students do in high school) that Maryland is below the Mason-Dixon line. Their climate is southern--with local warming, deadly. In the Civil War Maryland's main battle was between the Union army of Baltimore and the Confederate army of Baltimore. Old Maryland families are still evenly divided.
Kentucky, MIssouri, and Delaware had slavery but didn't secede, and are located south of the Maryland/Pennsylvania border, but...
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I'm a sixth gen. Floridan, and my great, great, great grandad fought for a Florida unit in the war of Northern aggression. Florida was the third State to secede, after S.C. and Ga. Florida is the South, it's just that due to foreign invasion both from Yankees and South Americans, now, the further North you go in Florida, the further South you get. Anywhere North of Orlando still counts.
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